At the end of last weeks episode, we promised you the gruesome abduction story of SGT John Lovette and we did not disappoint. Get ready for this one. And how does it connect to something called file 13? Plus, should we be encouraged or discouraged after the Congressional hearings on UAP’s? There’s much more than you’d think to unwrap from that session…

Hear at all here as Diener and Karen break it all down with you.

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